Topic: Potential bug with Njerpez "Raids"  (Read 2040 times)


Felis_Citrus

« on: July 16, 2024, 11:47:51 AM »
Recently, during a village razing run, I cooped up in a settlement. I had noticed some Njerpez on the zoomed out view but wanted to take the opportunity to let them raid the village so I can come in and murder everything that survived. Timeline of the raid from my POV:

1. Njerpez shot a blacksmith who immediately fell unconcious, and then shot me.

2. I ran up to the Njerpez and wounded him, got mauled out of sight by dog.

3. Proceeded to chase Njerpez raider, but a Kaumo peasant attacked me. He ceased his attacks a short while later saying "There! Will you behave now?" or something similar.

4. I hid in a house full of people to force duels between Njerpez and me.

5. Dog and Njerpez ran in house, but the women who were sleeping woke up. Even though the dog was definitely Njerpez, as well as the Njerpez in front of me attacking me, the women just went back to sleep without attacking.

6. I died shortly after from dog.

Either there is a bug here, or the villagers are just programmed to not attack unless they are attacked first even by Njerpez raiders, which is inconsistent with the lore considering the Kaumo should be knowledgeable on Njerpez raids. Furthermore, unless I did something that made them happy, it was weird that the peasant attacked me after I attacked the Njerpez. Moreover, it seems that the villagers arent alerted if one dies by a Njerpez raider. Before the blacksmith was shot, I saw a log saying "you heard a swear in the South". Either that was directed at me, or a villager was attacked by a Njerpez and the other villagers werent alerted. I have an issue with this considering if the player attacks an awake villager, all other villagers wake up and attack.

Please tell me if villagers are supposed to be hostile towards Njerpez, or I was just doing something wrong.

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« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2024, 01:33:42 PM »
First, to answer your question:

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Please tell me if villagers are supposed to be hostile towards Njerpez, or I was just doing something wrong.

Yes, villagers are supposed to be hostile towards Njerpez. Or more precisely, they are supposed to protect their settlements from the Njerpez.
But all in all, they shouldn't ignore the raiders entering their property - but they should fight back.

So there's something here that doesn't quite match.

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5. Dog and Njerpez ran in house, but the women who were sleeping woke up. Even though the dog was definitely Njerpez, as well as the Njerpez in front of me attacking me, the women just went back to sleep without attacking.

Villagers don't consider dogs their enemies, unless the dogs behave like that towards them. But as for the woman going to sleep right away, even though there's enemy and combat situation going on next to her ... that's a bit weird and ignorant. Only explanation I could think of would be that she was really dead tired, and couldn't help passing out immediately.  Now I don't know how many turns she slept before your character died... but if it lasted for a long time she should still have woken back up and join the fight.

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3. Proceeded to chase Njerpez raider, but a Kaumo peasant attacked me. He ceased his attacks a short while later saying "There! Will you behave now?" or something similar.

This part is also a bit weird. The peasant's line is something the villagers say when the character has been attacking or harrassing them. But this shoudn't happen if only the raiders were attacked. If you had accidentally attacked one of the villagers that might explain this, and maybe even also the latter morale confusion the sleepy village woman was experiencing.
Even if the character died, there should be msglog.txt in their ANCESTORS/ folder. If you could dig that out I'd be happy to read in detail about how the events went. And maybe to get on track with the possible issues then.
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