3.50 skin degrade without warning

[davidor]

one of my two fine skin downgraded to harsh skin without notice.

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(143270):25h6:[#]{01D503DB}      | Things that are here:
>>>(000000):25h6:[f]{01D503DB}      | fine rinsed mallard-skin<<<
>>>(000000):25h6:[f]{01D503DB}      | fine rinsed mallard-skin<<<
(143270):25h6:[#]{01D503DB}      | Using: HIDEWORKING
(143270):25h6:[#]{01D503DB}      | Hidework option: Clean the skin
(147870):25h6:[?]{01D503DB}      | (1) You need cutting weapon - preferably a broad knife.
(AB5700):25h6:[+]{01D503DB}      | The hunting knife in your inventory will be used.
(147870):25h6:[?]{01D503DB}      | (2) You need 1.94 Lbs of water.
(000000):25h6:[T]{01D503DB}      | There is plenty of water nearby.
(000000):25h6:[O]{01D503DB}      | Ok, you have all the necessary equipment!
(143270):25h6:[#]{01D503DB}      | You start to scrape and rinse the skin clean from any remaining flesh and fat.
(3C5A98):25h6:[:]{01D503DB}      | Meanwhile, black grouse enters your view...
(147870):25h6:[?]{01D503DB}      | Abort task?
(000000):25h6:[Y]{01D503DB}      | You hear black grouse cooing in the north-east.
(000000):25h6:[Y]{01D503DB}      | You hear mallard calling in the south-east.
(000000):25h6:[Y]{01D503DB}      | You hear black grouse cooing in the east.
(AB5700):25h6:[+]{01D503DB}      | You obtained a fine clean wolf-skin which can be now processed further, or cured for preservation.
(143270):25h6:[#]{01D503DB}      | Using: HIDEWORKING
(143270):25h6:[#]{01D503DB}      | Hidework option: Tan the skin
(143270):25h6:[#]{01D503DB}      | Tanning process now requires you to apply tanning material.
(147870):25h6:[?]{01D503DB}      | (1) You need 1.94 Lbs of water.
(000000):25h6:[T]{01D503DB}      | There is plenty of water nearby.
(147870):25h6:[?]{01D503DB}      | (2) You need 0.39 Lbs of tanning material.
(575757):25h6:[_]{01D503DB}      | (Either alder/willow bark (peeled by using timbercraft skill) or animal fat can be used as a tanning material.)
(A80000):25h6:[!]{01D503DB}      | Canceled.
>>>(3C5A98):25h6:[:]{01D503DB}      | You pick up the fine rinsed mallard-skin.<<<
(663333):25h6:[&]{01D503DB}      | You are getting hungry.
(A80000):25h6:[!]{01D503DB}      | There's a fence blocking your way!
(3C5A98):25h6:[:]{01D503DB}      | You climbed successfully.
(000000):25h6:[Y]{01D503DB}      | You hear black grouse cooing in the east.
(143270):25h6:[#]{01D503DB}      | Using: HIDEWORKING
(143270):25h6:[#]{01D503DB}      | Hidework option: Tan the skin
(143270):25h6:[#]{01D503DB}      | Tanning process now requires you to apply tanning material.
(147870):25h6:[?]{01D503DB}      | (1) You need 1.94 Lbs of water.
(000000):25h6:[T]{01D503DB}      | There is plenty of water nearby.
(147870):25h6:[?]{01D503DB}      | (2) You need 0.39 Lbs of tanning material.
(575757):25h6:[_]{01D503DB}      | (Either alder/willow bark (peeled by using timbercraft skill) or animal fat can be used as a tanning material.)
(000000):25h6:[O]{01D503DB}      | Ok, you have all the necessary equipment!
(143270):25h6:[#]{01D503DB}      | You start to rub the tanning material on the skin.
(000000):25h6:[Y]{01D503DB}      | You hear mallard calling in the north.
(000000):25h6:[Y]{01D503DB}      | You hear black grouse cooing in the north-east.
(143270):25h7:[#]{01D503DB}      | The skin is now left alone for the tanning material to get working.
(575757):25h7:[_]{01D503DB}      | This step is complete by late morning. After that, continue tanning the skin until the whole process is finished off.
(143270):25h7:[#]{01D503DB}      | Tanning process now requires you to soften the skin.
(147870):25h7:[?]{01D503DB}      | (1) You need workbench or working surface.
(575757):25h7:[_]{01D503DB}      | (A table, bench or even a big tree trunk will do as a workbench at which manual work is done.)
(AB5700):25h7:[+]{01D503DB}      | The tree trunk nearby will be used.
(147870):25h7:[?]{01D503DB}      | (2) You need beater.
(AB5700):25h7:[+]{01D503DB}      | The fine club nearby will be used.
(000000):25h7:[O]{01D503DB}      | Ok, you have all the necessary equipment!
(143270):25h7:[#]{01D503DB}      | You start softening the skin by pounding, stretching, squeezing and cursing - the final and the most laborious stage of tanning.
(000000):25h7:[T]{01D503DB}      | The sheep bleats.
(000000):25h7:[Y]{01D503DB}      | You hear rustle of wings from the north-west.
(000000):25h8:[T]{01D503DB}      | The bull wakes up.
(000000):25h8:[T]{01D503DB}      | The cow wakes up.
>>>(AB5700):25h8:[+]{01D503DB}      | You finish the tanning process and obtained a fine mallard leather.<<<
(CC3333):25h8:[&]{01D503DB}      | You are very hungry!
(000000):25h8:[I]{01D503DB}      | It's very tasty and is devoured with great appetite.
(3C5A98):25h8:[:]{01D503DB}      | Meanwhile, hazel grouse enters your view...
(147870):25h8:[?]{01D503DB}      | Abort task?
(A80000):25h8:[!]{01D503DB}      | Task cancelled!
(000000):25h8:[I]{01D503DB}      | It's very tasty and is devoured with great appetite.
(000000):25h8:[H]{01D503DB}      | Hazel grouse flees.
(000000):25h8:[T]{01D503DB}      | The bull bellows.
(3C5A98):25h8:[:]{01D503DB}      | You finish eating the tasty roasted mallard cut.
(143270):25h8:[#]{01D503DB}      | Using: HIDEWORKING
>>>from this point I noticed the skin downgraded<<<
>>>(143270):25h8:[#]{01D503DB}      | Hidework option: Tan the skin<<<
(143270):25h8:[#]{01D503DB}      | Tanning process now requires you to soften the skin.
(147870):25h8:[?]{01D503DB}      | (1) You need workbench or working surface.
(575757):25h8:[_]{01D503DB}      | (A table, bench or even a big tree trunk will do as a workbench at which manual work is done.)
(AB5700):25h8:[+]{01D503DB}      | The tree trunk nearby will be used.
(147870):25h8:[?]{01D503DB}      | (2) You need beater.
(AB5700):25h8:[+]{01D503DB}      | The fine club nearby will be used.
(000000):25h8:[O]{01D503DB}      | Ok, you have all the necessary equipment!
(143270):25h8:[#]{01D503DB}      | You start softening the skin by pounding, stretching, squeezing and cursing - the final and the most laborious stage of tanning.
(000000):25h8:[T]{01D503DB}      | The bull bellows.
(000000):25h8:[Y]{01D503DB}      | You hear mallard calling in the north-west.
(000000):25h8:[T]{01D503DB}      | The sheep bleats.
>>>(AB5700):25h8:[+]{01D503DB}      | You finish the tanning process and obtained a harsh mallard leather.<<<
(575757):25h8:[_]{01D503DB}      | You could have done better, but can't make good out of bad.save is available after the point of getting harsh leather

[PALU]

If you pass through a quality degradation check while holding a skin in your inventory that can result in a degradation without notice (just as food can grow stale while you're carrying it around). If the skin was fine it's harsh to degrade it directly to harsh, though.

[MrMotorhead]

I've seen this happen as well, and I suspect it is due to rotting.  I had a superior elk fur go directly to harsh because I forgot about it for a day.  Things seem to go bad between morning and late morning, that's when the game figures a new day starts.

[PALU]

Actually, the day ticks over at sometime *during* "morning". You can see that if your character is injured, as injuries heal at that time (so a penalty of 5 may go to 4), and the treatment indication also goes away. Skill increase indicators are also removed when the day ticks over.
It's a bit of a pain that you can't determine with certainty if it's still "yesterday" or "today", as you'll get a backlash if your morning sacrifice happens to actually happen "yesterday", when you've already made a sacrifice.

[davidor]

I don't think this is the case, I'm very sure it gone from 2 fine rinsed mallard-skins to 1 fine mallard leather and 1 harsh rinsed mallard-skin and both killed at that day which shouldn't rot.

[Sami]

Drop me the savegame, davidor, and I'll check it out.
Hard to figure out what might have happened but I'll try reproduce with that character at the same spot to see if the terrain background activities may have be triggering some glitchy behaviour.