Topic: Walking through the fire message  (Read 7327 times)


Buoidda

« on: December 19, 2020, 09:35:19 AM »
It'd be helpful to state how long the fire will burn instead of the current "You can not walk through the fire" warning that you only need to read once in a player's lifetime.

Especially when naked in the wild: this important information would be four times fever keypresses away. (F3+dir+enter+Esc)

EDIT: I wasn't aware / didn't remember the 'x' command, which diminishes my suggestion below treshold of making it.
« Last Edit: December 20, 2020, 04:25:13 AM by Buoidda »

ineedcords

« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2020, 10:37:03 AM »
It'd be helpful to state how long the fire will burn instead of the current "You can not walk through the fire" warning that you only need to hear once in a player's lifetime.
I see how it can help in some cases and in my games I personally had a need to be on a particular spot however this happened maybe only a handful times; it is not a typical need for me, I wonder if it is  for you and others?

On my mind, it is way more likely that the instruction to walk into fire was a mistake rather than a deliberate attempt to get engulfed in flames or a desire to be exactly on that particular tile for any reason. With this background, I doubt that information would be helpful for typical use case as I cannot imagine many/most players will have a need to sit there and wait.

And for those who do, since we currently already have a system that allows a player to find out WHEN will fire in a particular tile die out [i.e.:  EXAMINE command with 'F3' or 'l'], pushing down this information to any player who most-likely-mistakenly attempts to step into to a live fire is not only unnecessary/unhelpful but also cluttering and spammy.


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Buoidda

« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2020, 11:20:01 AM »
I agree the information becomes important only in certain situations / scenarios. Playstyles come in big time in this topic. Practically all of my play characters start naked in winter or spring. There is some work to use the current system: "F3 - pick a direction - enter" when you could catch the  info while stepping around your fire anyway. It might not sound as much, but on physical keyboard use and psychological level I do think it would make a much more fluid interface.

I do walk mistakenly towards fire constantly and never read the message. Should my suggestion pass, I could still ignore the message - unless I need the extra information provided.

I understand only some (only me?) see this sug as important enough to bother the devs with, but I do fail to see how the current message is any better: more helpful or less cluttering.
« Last Edit: December 19, 2020, 11:21:38 AM by Buoidda »

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« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2020, 05:52:20 PM »
Change the warning text to: “ you can’t walk through fire, which will burn another <time left to burn down>

For faster check than F3, you can use xlowercase then direction. Benefit: no need to Escape from ‘look at’ mode. I.e. one less key press. Or 33% key pressing reduction  ;D

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« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2020, 02:18:12 PM »
It'd be helpful to state how long the fire will burn instead of the current "You can not walk through the fire" warning that you only need to read once in a player's lifetime.

Especially when naked in the wild: this important information would be four times fever keypresses away. (F3+dir+enter+Esc)

EDIT: I wasn't aware / didn't remember the 'x' command, which diminishes my suggestion below treshold of making it.

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